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hello me blind fuckers. have you ever been assaulted, robbed? mugged?recently, i have pondered the "what if's" of me voulnarability. so, i am conteplating purchasing a tazzor gun, pistol, or even pepper sprey for protection agains other dogs, and assholes who might wish me and me pup harm. does anyone own such a device? can you recommend a tazzor gun? or perhaps another method of protection?
stunguns are the best but you have to touch the person your shocking. Problem with tazor guns is it's like a gun that shoots out a wire that has to contact with the person before it starts shocking.
Pepper spray isn't a bad idea, I actually think they make a fome that covers a wider area so it doesn't matter or not if you get them in the eyes.
btw, all of this can be baught from ebay where it's a lot cheaper. You might check the laws in your state on stun-guns.
Wow. I didn't know it was legal to own a tazzer gun.
I wouldn't necessarily be against it, but I would definitely want to be fairly decent with your own self defence skills without weapons. Owning these types of things would be good as a last resort type of thing, but you need to be careful, because if such things weren't absolutely necessary in that situation, you could find yourself in debt paying for a lawsute, or even in jail. Even if you felt it was necessary, you'd have to prove that to a judge if it came down to it.
right I'm sure a judge is going to side with some hoody gang banger threatening a blind guy.
Your own self defence skills? are we talking hangs and feet against guns and knives as it is now days?
let me know how that works out for you. that is if your stll alive to talk about it!
Shawn, wonder if you know about this:
There is a military weapon I've heard of called a Direct Energy Weapon (DEW) which basically causes the mollecules on the skin to move a lot faster aka heat up, so the opponent feels like they just leaned against a hot stove or something.
I don't know what the charge cycles look like for these, or if they're available to the consumer market, but do you?
My big downside with either a taser or pepper spray is your inability to practice. You could practice with a DEW. Practice makes perfect, but more important in this case, makes confident. You don't want to be funbling physically ("Is this thing on? Where's the safety?) or mentally (Will this work? What were the instructions?) because when you really do need it, you need all the companion knowledge and instincts that go along with it.
Of course all feedback is welcome but I specifically targeted Shawn as he appears to have some experience with it.
To gain enough self-defense skills to overcome an armed opponent takes years and years of dedication and practice, and you must always upkeep. People who dedicate themselves to the Martial Arts are first disciplined, second dedicated, and third, willing to commit a large amount of time to maintain. We're not talking your daily workout, what they do is considerably more.
Just my thoughts and observations
A judge isn't going to take sides with the blind person simply because he or she is blind. There has to be more to it. If someone is holding a gun to your head, or a knife to your throat, then sure you could use those things, but I hope you have some sort of proof that they did it; at least a witness.
I think the idea of blind people wandering the streets with taser guns obtained from ebay is positively terrifying.
I think what you need to consider is that if you are essentially seen as vulnerable then you are already being targeted as such. If you're not a competent user of a taser weapon (and the hope is that you're not going to gain a huge amount of experience in order to become a competent user), then it's entirely possible that your own weapon could be used against you by a would-be thief.
I'm all for self defence but equally I'm not a hero. If someone wants to mug me for my handbag, credit cards, jewellery, they're welcome to it.
Any of those kinds of weapons are illegal over here anyway..
Ah yes, but you Brits can swing a mean nightstick, no?
OK that was tongue in cheek for those not yet old enough to separate the two
well, food for thought. legely i know i must fear for my lifeto justify some sort of reaction. martial arts is another way of going. any particular school of study?
Ok, lets break this down.
Tasars, the good thing is, they're cheap, but are they effective. In most cases no. If the person is standing too far away or too close, they don't work as well. If the person is wearing clothes that are thick, like a leather jacket, they don't work. You only get one shot, which means if the first one doesn't miss, your no better off, in fact your worst off because now he's probably very pissed off.
Pepperspray, again, its cheap and easily concealable. However, if he is wearing sunglasses, it doesn't work. If he is more than three feet away, it doesn't work. If you don't get it at least on his face, it doesn't work. (side note, the foam is not available to civilians) If you are not in a well ventilated area, it works very well, but it also works on you as equally well as on the person you sprayed. Also, you only get about three to five seconds depending on the can, and I can promise that it will not seem like enough.
Stun guns, not quite so cheap, but still inexpensive. However, if any part of you other than the stun gun touches the person, you get shocked too. Also, when the person gets shocked, they flail, if they touch you, you get shocked too. If they are wearing clothing that is thick, like leather or rubberized matieral, they don't work at all, and your going to be very close to someone who is now very pissed off at you.
Knives, if you know what your doing, all well and good. However, the classic switchblade is not a good idea, the frame is not strong enough for combat, and the blade is not long enough anyway. If your going to carry a knife, make it a sheath knife.
Last, pistols. If you know what your doing, and are prepared to use the pistol, it is what I would suggest. They are unstopable except by bullet proof vest, and sometimes not even then. Also, merely shouting, "I have a gun", is usually enough to end a situation.
If you want to ask more, feel free to send me a private message and I'll give details. I own a pistol myself, and will soon have a concealed weapons permit.
The stungun I have is rated at 1million volts. a 2 second blast will nock someone out for 15 minutes. the shock will litterally throw you across the room, yes it's been tested, I had a crazy friend who was curious. There is going to be proof by god when the police show up. I'd hang around and shock him everytime he wakes up just to make sure.
A stungun isn't a deadly weapon unless the chap is wearing a pace maker. and if your robbing people wearing a pace maker you diserve what ever you get.
oh, and Leo, never herd of that device you speak of. but I am interested. grin
I've actually heard of that gun that heats up the skin, and it's probably a great idea, since it will definitely slow the person down enough to make them temperarily unable to hurt you, but they won't kill the person. Remember, even when you're defending yourself, the point is to free yourself from harm, and to inflict only as much force as is absulutely necessary to accomplish that.
I have been in a test of that device, and it isn't debilitating enough. It just feels like a bad sunburn and is useful against crowds, which is what it is designed for. It is designed to keep a crowd of people away from a particular area, it works like a rope or shock fence for dogs. It isn't designed for use against one person. Plus, it isn't even available for police forces yet, let alone for civilians.
If it misses the target you won't be any safer. Also you may not have time to get it ready for use if you're attacked.
First, if you miss, you just pull the trigger again. Second, it takes me exactly 1.1 seconds to be attacked and to have a gun ready to use. Its called knowing what your doing.
I'm going to disagree with you here a bit OceanDream. If somebody's going to attack me, unprovoked especially, I'm going to use whatever force necessary that's at my disposal to put them on the ground and keep them there long enough that I don't have to worry about them anymore.
I don't believe in starting violence, except in very very limitted situations. But if someone is going to start it, I'd much prefer to be the one ending it.
I didn't say not to use whatever force necessary. I just don't think it's right to use more, but that's a matter of opinion.
If someone punches you in the eye, your response shouldn't be to kill them, but to get them to the point where they can't do it again. However, if someone has a gun to your head, then yes, I'd say it's okay to shoot them. It really depends on the situation.